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I am so excited for you to get to enjoy this conversation that Courtney and I had together. Courtney Spencer is a life coach, an attorney and a mother. She helps women who are overwhelmed and stuck in busy take control of their lives and finally achieve their goals and dreams. She is both a cheerleader and accountability holder for her clients partnering with them to break through the barriers that have been keeping them from achieving the call on their lives. You're gonna benefit so very much from what Courtney shares about how to manage time enjoy.

Corinne Powell: What everything you have to tell us about managing our time well, and I'll let you take it away. 

Courtney Spencer: I'm not the master of time so I've had to become the master of technique. I'm the person who's tends to be like five minutes late over schedule. In my law practice I have staff that take care of that and in my personal life I've come up with techniques. So everything I'm teaching you - I'm not one of those wonderfully types,  I am type a but wonderfully organized people who just was born with these systems. 

I'm definitely the person for those people who struggle in this area because I can identify and I've probably tried every I have to say I've tried everything and every day I try something new. So I think that just the information I'm giving you is based on true research tried every planner, every app, every technique, coaches, you name it. 

But what I have found is and I agree. This is not my philosophy. This is said by many many people much more skilled than me that if you don't manage your time your time manages you And if you don't manage your time, you're just reacting and putting out fires versus moving the needle forward in your own life. So taking control of your time is huge taking control of my time is life changing. When I don't, when I just sort of let things happen life happens, you know things go forward I do all the things but I don't actually get to where I really want to go. So I guess what I what I really want to say about temp time management is it sounds super technical and super fussy and restrictive. But it really is actually the most freeing thing you can do is come up with a really good way to manage your time so you can manage your life. 

Corinne Powell: Yeah Yeah, I just did because I feel like that's one of my things even because you know. We have the kids at home homeschooling them and there'll be times. I think yeah, I think if I just did our schedule differently it would make a huge difference. So I'm really curious to learn what you're gonna share. 

Courtney Spencer: Yeah, and I mean, especially everybody right now is juggling many things even as kids go back to school, no matter no matter what's happening things are -  I apologize for the phone ring Hi management -  I'm like family. You need to make sure everything is organized so I could do this call. 

So everybody's wearing more hats than we ever used to wear. And so it's really important to know that and to know that you can plan for that, you can plan whether you have a 40-hour nine-to-five workweek or if you have a -  like I have two businesses.

So I have two different schedules or if you're homeschooling and so every day is different then you can do these techniques. So the number one thing I want to say is planning is key. You have to know, you have to plan weekly and daily. I do best when I actually plan half-hour increments, but it really doesn't matter. But overall in addition to all of that is block scheduling block scheduling is a godsend. 

When I heard of it, I was like, yes, actually I first heard of it. I'm like, that's crazy. My life is so unpredictable day to day, how could I put blocks around it? But what it does is it forces you to create some predictability. So I'll give you an example of mine and I teach I when I teach this I show people my actual schedule which changes. 

So there's Sunday planning because every week is very different for me. But in general the big blocks are Monday and Tuesday are coaching and ministry school when that's going on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday our Law all day long doesn't mean I don't do law on Mondays and Tuesdays. It doesn't mean I don't do coaching on Wednesday, Thursday Friday, but those are all allocated days. Okay mornings are so up until 10, there is the you know start my schedule starts usually at 6 so there's prayer, usually some exercise. It's all your it's got a self-care in the morning.  Do I always get to it? No when I do get to it life goes well. 

And then I get a block of because in the morning for me the deep work has to happen early because by the afternoon my brain is smushed, you know what I mean? So there's like the I want to learn a new estate planning technique, if I want to learn a new coaching technique if I want to review, you know, anything big it's gonna be in the morning. 

So then I do appointments after 10 and I do them for a set amount of time but I don't do appointments before 10 unless there's like some extreme reason to do that because once I get into appointments my day's done.

It's appointment, appointment, appointment, appointment, and then I have done none of the deep work that I wanted to do. Yeah It's a time I would set up my marketing, business planning, you know what I mean? So I really have that focus time. 

So that's my first block six to ten, and then I might next block from 10 to lunchtime. We'll start depending on what it is whether it's coaching whether it's law will be work time.

I have my lunch break it's not always perfect. It's not always at 12, but that's my lunch time which I try very hard to not work or look at social media,  just really enjoy just eating even if it's five minutes. Not always successful, but I try. 

Yeah, and then I have my next block so I have an afternoon work block and then I cut it off at 5. Now I do coaching calls in the evening for clients that have to do that. They just have no other choices, but other than that my 5 o'clock on is my daughter and my husband and that's it so you know, it may be that she has a physical therapy appointment or something, but it's all about her, it's all about family time and I structure my weekends the same way I used to especially when I first opened my law practice and when I first opened my coaching practice I was like, oh you need an appointment at 9 p.m on a Saturday. I'm your girl, whatever you want, you know? 

And what happened was did I get a ton of business? Yes. Did I like lose not lose my family but like I didn't even know it was going on? So I had to learn you have to do the hustle in the beginning. That's normal but I learned that no, this is no way to live or function. And I and that my family, you know, it's God family or I'm friends or you know, yeah, and that's big priority. So again It's sort of creating rhythms.

I heard somebody say this recently. It's creating rhythms more than a rigid schedule. But every night for the next day, it's a rigid schedule because I know what's coming up. So like on Sunday I don't do a rigid schedule for the week, but the night before I do a schedule at 6 a.m I'm gonna pray at 6h15. I'm gonna do this at 7 o'clock. I'm gonna do this at 7h30. I'm gonna do this and I keep it where I can see it so that I never get lost. 

Because I could pop on Instagram and lose two hours, you know, oh sure. Yeah, or I could focus on the wrong thing. 

Corinne Powell: Right. Okay, that makes so much sense because I heard the blocks and I'm thinking okay, that's doable. And already kind of what I do what I don't do which would help me out a ton is the night before when you're talking about. Detailing it I can even feel like how much lighter that would be because I'd be committing to. Okay. Well, I've done this before where I'll set the timer of 30 minutes. I'll clean for 30 minutes. Actually, I like knowing once that time was done.

It doesn't matter what I haven't finished I'm going to stop cleaning so I can get to the next thing I need to do. That's where I feel like what you're saying at least for me I could implement it and that would make a huge difference in the way the day would flow for me.

Courtney Spencer: Yes. It sounds restrictive like oh my god, but you're not scheduling like making your so these are things you have to do you're just putting it in a bucket and you know when that and like you said perfectly at 8 o'clock if that's your next time that's the next thing you have to do you stop what you're doing, but you then you can take a note and you shift it to tomorrow and it's okay, you know, 

Obviously emergencies and family and things like that take precedent.  But it takes a lot of stress off you because a lot of times I feel like you know especially when you're a big thinker sometimes in the day like where am I supposed to be, you know? And let me pick the most distracting thing to do instead right like I deserve a couple minutes of downtime and then everything goes and also you don't often get so they talk about eat the eat that frog and do your biggest hardest thing first. 

Because the sense of relief you'll feel is immense and the sense of anxiety you'll feel if you don't do it, you're putting it off it's huge. So it's like, you know sort of just it's like there's a woman Jordan Page. She does this like fun cheaper free. She's uh, I think she has a podcast. She has a blog. She's always saying she's really fun.

And She does a block scheduling system, but she does it like like when we were in school. She's like, you know the bell rings and you move on. Yeah, and so it's sort of like that It's a I do it at a much smaller scale because again. If I just say my block is from six to ten again I could be wandering around the house doing laundry when I should be doing marketing, right? That's especially when you're like I work from home. 

You lose a lot of time then all of a sudden you can't stop work at five because you didn't do what you were supposed to do, so now you're working till 10h. So that to me the more detailed your schedule the more clear your schedule is to you and your family. The less you have to work because the more you get done.

Corinne Powell: Right makes sense. Yeah, and I know recently, I've just been doing it where? Because like you there's like certain days I'm working certain days Evans working. Tthe days that I'm working I don't plan on doing like my laundry and my housework. 

So the days he's working even though I'm still like making sure the kids get their school done, I'm also adding in the laundry and the major cleaning around the house but I feel relieved on the days that I'm working because I'm like, well, that's not for today. Like I don't even give it thought like I doesn't really matter what's in the hamper. I'm not doing it today I'm gonna do it on the days he's working.

That's you know, now that we're sitting here talking about it I'm like, oh, yeah that it creates a lot of relief because like you said you're ending when you're ending or you're not doing a task on certain days or certain times.

Courtney Spencer: Yeah, the expectations are clear and that is very wise because laundry, cleaning out junk, drawers, cleaning out closets are, well, they're also procrastination tools, right? 

Corinne Powell: Okay.

Courtney Spencer: We all have to do something and it's like well I really have this phone call. I need to make but I know it's not gonna be pleasant but my god, I haven't organized my closet in six months. So let me go do that. So yes, absolutely if you're like no on work days, we don't we don't do housework like that we tidy but it's not the laundry, the washing the floors, the big stuff, right? And you make those really clear expectations for yourself, I think it helps. 

Another technique that I teach is And I also I learned this again. I'm not I'm not inventing anything myself. I learned it on YouTube. You take a piece of paper you do Monday Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday Sunday, and you make columns for each day. And then you literally write everything you have to do in no random order everything. You brush my teeth. You know make sure my daughter took her vitamins. You know I don't know if you have lunch with somebody plus the work plus the marketing plus the whatever you're doing and you write it all out so you can see it 

Then on each day because it each day is different for everybody and then you put and sometimes it's it's only like one Saturday a month, it doesn't matter you put it on Saturday. Then you write next to it. How much time do these tasks take? 

Another technique is to highlight like what's personal what's work so you can kind of see the difference. So then when you go so when you go to create your big block schedule, so your big block schedule is your master schedule, again it's not where you're putting like at 8 o'clock I have a call with Sally Smith, at 9 o'clock I have a coaching client.

Your big block schedule so you can kind of have a map like an overall map of where you're going. You take those tasks and now you know how long they take and then you can plug them in. Because it's being realistic. Because how many times do you think I'm gonna get I'm gonna do this and it's gonna take five minutes and it takes two hours or this is gonna take two hours and it only takes five minutes.

So it's because you don't really want to do it because it's a hard task. You're like, oh god It's just gonna be too much. I just can't do it right now. So you you put it off, right? So when you have a realistic like oh, oh my gosh, I can do these things. Plug them in. It's also an opportunity to say oh my god, every Tuesday I have lunch with Sally Smith, and I don't really think that's maybe the best use of either of our time.

So no more lunch with Sally Smith. Once a month a coffee, you know, whatever it is. And I'm making up that you know those kinds of things those connections with friends are actually very very important. But say it's like something you do routinely, but you don't have to do. It's a great opportunity to say no right and go ahead.

Corinne Powell: I'm just loving what you're saying. Like I can feel the freedom this brings. 

Courtney Spencer: Yeah, and looking I, one time this is years ago when I first started my law practice on my own which like 2008 I hired a professional organizer because I could not get I could not get everything done and she came and she looked at my schedule and she said no you can't do all of that.

You have you like, I'm a professional organizer. I can't help you. You have to start letting go and at the time I was on two different boards I was on the library board and I was on Church Council and the library board was wonderful and I loved the people but It's not necessarily my passion. The Church Council was like a huge passion and she said you've got to choose and I said I couldn't. 

They just they asked me to be on the library board. I love the people I just joined and she's like, okay So what's more important your family? Or this board and I was like, you know, and and she was right. And so they were gracious and they got I mean there was like a waiting list to get on the library board people wanted to be on it. It just it and it wasn't bad. 

It just if I had to choose then the Church Council was much more of a passion, so she taught me in that she taught me in that that idea of there is a point where it is not realistic to do the things you want to do all of the things you want to do and you really do have to make hard choices. Yeah, and that set me on the path. It took years, but eventually at one point I got myself overwhelmed, stressed, my body broke down, my health broke down and I revamped everything. Started coaching after I learned a lot of skills from falling apart I became the queen of “No, you know, can you bake this for the bake sale? Absolutely not, but I'll give you here's 20 bucks you can buy something and call it mine”. 

I'm like, you know, I'm always thinking okay saying yes to you means saying no to my daughter saying yes to you means saying no to my husband. There can be no date night now and so I'm judicious, I'm strict about what goes in my calendar and what does not.

Corinne Powell: Wow, that is awesome. You are definitely empowering all of us because when you said it that way like if I say yes to you I'm saying no to this. How clear is that? You're not, you're being so honest with yourself and I like that. That’s good. I'm in a position, I'm in a point in in my life and with my business that I'm having to see what in what ways I've been blocking myself in and part of it has been by saying yes to certain things that yeah like you kind of said with the library and the Church Council.

Like you were your heart was in both of them but you needed to let one go to free up some time and that's where I'm at. like my hearts and in many, you know in the things I'm doing but I can see that some of them are creating blocks where I'm like “Oh, yeah, I say I want this but I don't even have time for this to come into my life .So, how can I open up these ways so that what I really want to come into my life can?” 

And a lot of it is this what what you're talking about very practical. What am I saying yes to what am I saying no to and how am I structuring my days, which is our life, you know.

Courtney Spencer: Yeah, it's huge. And oftentimes then what you're saying no to is are the people you care about most. Yeah I even even I some some of the best advice I heard was has been the most shocking like again when I started my law practice, I wanted to be affordable Even when I started my coaching practice, I wanted to be super affordable and somebody said “hum, oh, so you care more about other people's kids than your own” and I was like, oh, but she was right. She's like if you're undervaluing yourself and working yourself into the ground and not charging what you're worth 

You are hurt. You are you're caring about other people because I represent children. You care about other people more than your children than you care about your own and it was you know. What it was meant to be shocking and um, and it made me rethink things because I think women especially, many men we walk around like “oh my gosh I don't want to bother you, and I don't want to put you out” and “oh my gosh you shouldn't have to pay for that”. 

You know, we do all of us do this, but what happens is we get ourselves in situations where we can't be everything we're called to be and we can't be there and available for the people that we want to be there and available for the ones we love, so it is like I said, if you don't it's not just manage your time, if you don't manage your life your life will manage you. 

It will happen, not on your terms. Like I said when I got sick when everything was going crazy I had no control over anything and I was just allowing everything to happen to me and just like years were passing and then it was like wait a second do I want my daughter to see this and live like this someday? No, I don't I want to teach her by watching me admit that this ain't working and then redesign my life in a way that works for my family for me um and it's easy now. 

Like I know a lot of people are like “Oh my god, I have such a hard time saying no” and my best advice to you is just practice. You'll become a master. It's actually one of the easiest skills to learn because once you do it and the world doesn't end and people don't hate you and if somebody's gonna hate you because you said no, they're not the kind of person that they're not they're fickle friends to begin with, you know. 

And you say it with grace and you say it kindly, but like you said if you don't and what this professional organizer said she said you have zero white space and if you have zero white space in your life nothing can come in nothing new can come in and oftentimes your calendar is full of things you don't really want to be doing or that are not actually like I said moving the needle forward. So if i'm spending all day doing work, that's great. I'm helping my clients.

That's really important. But then I better spend another day on marketing or I'm not going to have any clients, you know what I mean? That mindset of you know the work is joyous. Like I like the legal work ,the coaching work. The work is fun. It's easy in many ways.

The harder part for me is the management, administration and the marketing and again, like I said, I have staff for a lot of this but some of it I have to do on my own and it's those are the tasks I put off. So I have to schedule it and commit. This is what you're going to be doing for two hours on Wednesday It just is what it is. And that helps with those clear boundaries Boundaries are good with everything. They're also good with yourself.

Corinne Powell: Yeah, I love it, it's great 

Courtney Spencer: And you had said something about the timer So I was thinking for this talk like what are the three really important things because there's so many ways you can go with time management um, but one was the block schedule one was the specific schedule, but the other was a pomodoro technique. Have you ever done that? 

Corinne Powell: I don't know. I don't recognize the term. So let's see as you explain it if I…

Courtney Spencer: Yeah, so I actually I'm trying to think I'm not remembering the totals. I think they're all different but a lot of times I think it's I haven't had to do it lately because I've been very good at it's usually when I have a big project I make myself do it so I can do the project and take breaks I believe it's 25 minutes of work and five-minute break and it's a timer.

And so it tells you that but I think some of them are like 45 minutes and five minutes break or 50 minutes and a 10-minute break, so I think you can do it any way you want. But it's very clear that it's a set amount of time And then it's a timer and it's a forced break And if you say to yourself, for example, I'm going to do I remember like when I write briefs I'm like, okay I'm going to do four pomodoros this morning. Very different than I'm gonna write 60 pages this morning, you know, which is like, you know where you go if it's like, okay I'm gonna do four pomodoros. You're sort of like playing a game with yourself. 

Yes, and It doesn't seem so bad. So the timer is just a different version of that which is Okay This is a really big task and I'm not even going to start it because it's overwhelming. But man, if I do if I commit to 30 minutes and actually have a stop that doesn't sound so bad and in times when you have more time it can be okay I'm going to just make myself do 30 minutes, but If I if I want to do more I can because I you know I really want to get this done. 

Same thing with exercise sometimes with coaching clients. I'm sure you do this I'm, like just get on the treadmill for five minutes because once you're on it. It's so hard to get off the getting on is the hardest part. 

Corinne Powell: Yes Yep. Yeah that i've i've heard and done where like if it's a task I'm, not feeling or not sure I want to do it, set a timer commit to doing it for the 15 minutes whatever it is and then see how I feel and you're right sometimes getting into it was the hardest part and it flows. And other times I stuck with my 15 minutes and then I you know, I held true to what I said to myself and okay I don't feel like doing it anymore but you're reconceptualizing the way you're looking at it when you're talking about doing four sets of those instead of writing a certain number of pages, right?  And it's you can think about it and say, okay, I can do that And then in the end you still get everything done that you would have needed to.

Courtney Spencer: You made you made a really important point. So if you say you're going to do it for 15 minutes and after 15 minutes, you don't want to it is very important to stop. Because if you push yourself, that's not going to work anymore. Now like I said if after 15 minutes you're like, you know, I feel great. I really want to finish this task It's very different, but you're right you honor to yourself the promise you made to yourself. So then you can trust yourself next time. And I think that's huge. That's a very good way to put it.

Corinne Powell: This is awesome. Very practical and I can tell you live it out like you're you're you own it and you're like you're the master of it. Like it just flows out of you. I can tell that's, so awesome. I always feel like anybody hearing anything if we're hearing it from someone who lives it, your words actually carry a power to us hearing it that empowers us in a different sort of way.

You're not just talking fluff you're like passionate about it. You know, it works. It's proven and it doesn't matter what someone else said like you're doing it so you're living proof. And so yeah, I love that Yeah.

Courtney Spencer: Oh, yeah, and again There are days when you know, I've been traveling lately so everything's a little up in the air But I still look at everything as blocks like I'm gonna still return calls in this time.

Like say I'm at Disney. I still have to check in. You know what I mean? Like I can never as a business owner as you know, you're never off. But it's not but so what happens is that I can enjoy my vacation because I know until two o'clock I'm off the clock. I'm on vacation.

But from two to three I'm on the phone and so as opposed to like, oh maybe sometime this week I'll check in and then all week you're like, “oh my god, oh my god, I have to check in”. The more you can put things tangibly in front of you in a schedule otherwise your brain tries to hold things for you and you get overwhelmed so another tip which is not really time management, but brain management is brain dumping.

I'm sure you do that where you just take a piece of paper. Everything in your brain goes on that paper. Like you'll you'd crack up if you saw mine It would be like, you know buy wedding gifts end world hunger, you know what I mean? Like write 12 books, you know It's like everything that's on your mind crazy and big or not. Because otherwise your brain's like well, don't forget you want to end world hunger write 12 books and buy the wedding present, right? And then it's like before you know it. Okay. Well, where are my keys? Like your brain's all full. Yeah You got to get it out.

So I think that's one of the best techniques and even as a daily technique is Any kind of journaling any kind of getting stuff out of your brain you'll sleep better. You'll have more peace because again your brain doesn't know that it's hurting you, by making you think think think think it thinks it's helping you so you got to train it to say Okay, I don't need to worry about this right now.

And I don't need to worry about it because now it's on paper and it's in a calendar, right? So I know i'm going to buy that wedding gift. The wedding's on friday. I'm going to buy the wedding gift on wednesday So I don't have to worry about it.

Yeah, and that's just really huge 

Yeah, it's awesome

 So it's all good. It's all good. And you know what if you you're not a master of your time It's not a big deal. You can become one if I can I'm not I don't have adhd but I have many adhd tendencies Which I think a lot of entrepreneurs do you have to have the ability to think big and think about a lot of things. I say you're either a forest person you can see the whole forest or you're a tree person. Tree people are the people that do great like they're accountants, they're contract reviewers, that we need them because without them people like us would be like wandering in the streets, right? 

You know the people that have every the people who make planners, you know, um, but I really think you're one or the other. I'm a tree. I'm a forest person. Sorry.

I'm not a tree person, but I've become that way in the ways that matter like time management because again if I don't manage my time I have too much going on and nothing's going to get done. And I'm always say this when I talk and it's true right now. I run two businesses. I have a coaching practice I have a law practice both active.

I have been in ministry school for two years I have a 15-year-old daughter and I have more time now than I did six years ago when I fell apart and got really sick back then all I had to do was be a lawyer and a mother and a wife. I didn't have actually half of what I have on my plate now. But I couldn't manage it well. I was a great lawyer but it took everything out of me because I wasn't managing my no’s, I wasn't managing my time, my schedule and my boundaries were all over the place, again, “Whatever you need, I’m here”. 

Where now, I’m very much an effective lawyer, and coach, and mother and wife because I know how to say, “here this are my priorities and those are god, family, friends, work, not that work is not important, that’s the easiest part of my life, but if it doesn't fit one of those buckets, it’s just a no. 

Corinne Powell: Yes, so we will take from Courtney because what you are saying is doable for all of us. So we choose to make excuses but if we don't wanna do that then we can choose to take something from what you told us, and start implementing it and we will be able to change our way of living and then you said something too, like, you are someone who might see the forest but there is times you have to see just the tree and I agree.

I had to remind myself that even tho I might feel like “Oh but it’s not really my personality to schedule myself in”. That honestly, I can still be who I am and choose to have blocks of time that I’m doing things because it’s going to be better overall for my life and it doesn't mean that every moment is mapped out or that I can’t flex when I want to.

Is like the beauty of having the time management, and also still being authentically whoever we are. So anybody listening who are like me, we like to flex our schedule. I think what you are saying, we can, but overall we still have a plan, we know why we are doing what we are doing, we are able to say no to the things we do not wanna do. 

We have our values in place and we are lining our life up with them and then some of it is needing to “ok what are we doing from 6 to 10 AM.

Courtney Spencer: You are directing your ship because your ship is gonna go where the wind blows if you don't direct it and you will eventually hit your target possibly, it’s gonna take a lot longer. But if you are directing your ship, yeah I think yes you are much more yourself when you are able to be very really clear on, what your life is gonna look like. 

Like you said I was one of those people, years ago, “Oh I’m just not a planner, I’m just not a scheduler” well I ran myself into the ground.  So yes, it is for everybody, it is not painful you will find more freedom but you said it perfectly, it is always a choice. You can choose not to manage your time but it’s a choice, it’s not forced upon you and that is okay. If you’re like, hey I rather just let the wind blow me whatever I go, fine.

But for most of us, that is not the best or healthiest option because most of us have dreams of something big we wanna do with our life, whatever that is. You gotta stir the ship. 

Corinne Powell: Yes.

Courtney Spencer: It’s okay if you are not a good manager of time, I’m not naturally a good manager of time, you can become one, you know? You won’t become a tree person all day long, you won’t lose your personality, you will just feel a lot of freedom, like a big breath of relief and to anyone out there needing help with time management, you can help me on Facebook. My website. Corinne is actually a very gifted coach, she can help you with time management, very very easily. So, I just wish everybody the best and just know that you are okay. You are totally okay just like you are, this is just a technic in your tool box, it can help push the needle for.

Corinne Powell: Yeah, and then where exactly, I’ll put it in the show notes, but where exactly can they find you on Instagram, or Facebook or your website?

Courtney Spencer: It’s courtneyspencercoaching. All of it is the same. So it’s www.courtneyspencercoaching.com, is my website. My Facebook page is Courtney Spencer Coaching and my Instagram is @courtneyspencercoaching. I think my LinkedIn is just Courtney Spencer.  

Corinne Powell: Okay, super. Go ahead and follow her guys, she is amazing. 

Courtney Spencer: Thank you, you are amazing.

Corinne Powell: Thanks, thanks for being here. 

[Ending] Here we are. We've made it to the end. What'd you think about what you heard today? Is there something you heard that you know, you need to take action on? I'm one of those people who loves to not just sit and hear something, but to sit in here and then go ahead and start implementing taking action on what I hear, what was stirred up in me and I encourage you to do the same. 

If you enjoyed today's episode or perhaps you heard an episode in the past that really stuck with you would you go ahead and share that with some of your friends and your family? It would mean so much to me and also, if you want to connect with me remember, you can always find me throughout the week on Instagram I'm @corinne_changeradically⁠ or you can email me anytime corinne@changeradically.com. 

I'd love to be in touch and if there's any way that I can help you, please seek me out until we speak again next week. I hope that you will remember in the moments that are loud and busy and in the moments that are quiet and still that who you are is super important. You are valuable and I am so glad that you're alive.